Roll it
  • Frank LamontFrank Lamont
    Can't wait!  when do you think the release date will be?
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Monday. Pinky swear.
    Frank Lamont said:

    Can't wait!  when do you think the release date will be?

  • Kaleb WymanKaleb Wyman
    Exciting!
  • Frank LamontFrank Lamont
    Ok, this is taking way too long now!   ;)
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Trust me, I'm as much eager to launch it as you are you get it. But be patient, less then 48 hours left till we Roll it! out.

    Frank Lamont said:
    Ok, this is taking way too long now!   ;)

  • basem alideebbasem alideeb
    That's AMAZING ^__^
  • Ben ParkerBen Parker
    Very cool script boss. Although I would have bought it just to reward you for the epic Promo. Quick question how does Roll it work with parenting? I noted that in your example you have the tractor rig how was that put together?
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Hey Ben. Thanks for kind reply.
    Parenting? Hell yeah! Actually, I am working on a tutorial to show how to rig either a tractor or a pram, but it would take some time to finish it. Anyways, you can try parenting with trial mode to see what's up.

    Ben Parker said:
    Very cool script boss. Although I would have bought it just to reward you for the epic Promo. Quick question how does Roll it work with parenting? I noted that in your example you have the tractor rig how was that put together?

  • Mark SantellaMark Santella
    I must be slow. The instructions for how to use it seem vague to me. Please advise or provide a step by step tutorial please. Purchased it.
  • James ScottJames Scott
    Looks great. And I would second Mark Santella's sentiments. I would love to see a tutorial on how you did the examples at the bottom of the descriptions page.
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    1. Select a shape layer.
    2. Click Roll it!
    3. Modify Rotation property.

    That's it. It rolls.

    Mark Santella said:
    I must be slow. The instructions for how to use it seem vague to me. Please advise or provide a step by step tutorial please. Purchased it.

  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    I am working on tutorial. This will take some time though. It will be posted online once it's done. Thank you.

    James Scott said:
    Looks great. And I would second Mark Santella's sentiments. I would love to see a tutorial on how you did the examples at the bottom of the descriptions page.

  • Sebastian NevermannSebastian Nevermann
    Hi!
    I just bought your script, and it works like a charm in CC2017. Unfortunately I wanted to use this in a project that needs to be finished in CC2014. Trying the script there always leads to an "Out of Memory"-Error following AE crashing. I have >30 GB of RAM available for AE, Mutlicore-Rendering is disabled.
    Any further ideas on how I could fix that issue?

    For now I'll just "roll" the desired shape in CC17 and import it over to CC14. Would be nice though if I could use it directly.

    Thank you so much for this awesome tool!
    Regards
  • Sebastian NevermannSebastian Nevermann
    Darn. So much for "rolling" it in CC17 and importing it to CC14.
    It seems to be the expression itself that (in my case) crashes CC14.

    My workaround for now: Convert the expression to keyframes and thus get the desired result in CC14.
  • David CrowtherDavid Crowther
    Clever little script, thanks for making it!
  • Mike MirandiMike Mirandi
    Great tool, man. Love it so far.

    A great feature would be to allow the reverse of its functionality: moving the object's position dictates the roll. This would allow for vehicles that have two different sized wheels to roll at different rates, or to roll objects to up and down a wavy hill, or around a path.

    It's probably already possible to figure out with math, but my math.....she's not so good. 
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Thanks Mike.
    I am working on this feature. I was working on such task before, but didnt finish it because of too complex calculations, therefore went with Rotation drives Position approach. I might give first option a try again after holidays, but cannot give you any promises. It really isn't a simple trigonometry there, unfortunately.


    Mike Mirandi said:
    Great tool, man. Love it so far.

    A great feature would be to allow the reverse of its functionality: moving the object's position dictates the roll. This would allow for vehicles that have two different sized wheels to roll at different rates, or to roll objects to up and down a wavy hill, or around a path.

    It's probably already possible to figure out with math, but my math.....she's not so good. 

  • philippe mouretphilippe mouret
    Hi Tomas,

    As James Scott asked in december, a real tutorial would be useful. We are in May now and no tutorial has come. When can we hope to see one? I've purchased this script and need real help to use it now. Thanks
  • aa bbaa bb
    Hi Tomas. 
    What about real tutorial for using this script?
  • aa bbaa bb
    How can I get back my money?
  • carlos juliaocarlos juliao
    Hi there,
    pretty good script for rolling just a simple layer with an odd shape
    but
    how do we go about getting the actions shown in the promo video
    which is what sold me on buying it in the first place

    just a simple tutorial to understand how to put together a parented group and have only a few rotate
    like the tractor displayed

    thanks in advance
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Sorry for a long wait, but tutorial just went online, along with project files. Hope you find it usefull https://aescripts.com/learn/roll-it--tractor-tutorial/

    carlos juliao said:
    Hi there,
    pretty good script for rolling just a simple layer with an odd shape
    but
    how do we go about getting the actions shown in the promo video
    which is what sold me on buying it in the first place

    just a simple tutorial to understand how to put together a parented group and have only a few rotate
    like the tractor displayed

    thanks in advance

    aa bb said:
    Hi Tomas. 
    What about real tutorial for using this script?

    philippe mouret said:
    Hi Tomas,

    As James Scott asked in december, a real tutorial would be useful. We are in May now and no tutorial has come. When can we hope to see one? I've purchased this script and need real help to use it now. Thanks

  • Jaime MartinezJaime Martinez
    I'm considering on buying it. But when is it going to be compatible with CC 2019?
  • Pipedrive OÜPipedrive OÜ
    How can I make the two abstract and odd sized shapes still react like car wheels?
    Currently they don't stick to the car, but start to slide from the wheelarches?
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Hey. have you seen Tractor tutorial?


    It covers basic steps on how to rig wheels.


    Pipedrive OÜ said:
    How can I make the two abstract and odd sized shapes still react like car wheels?
    Currently they don't stick to the car, but start to slide from the wheelarches?

  • Pipedrive OÜPipedrive OÜ
    Tomas Sinkunas said:
    Hey. have you seen Tractor tutorial?


    It covers basic steps on how to rig wheels.


    Pipedrive OÜ said:
    How can I make the two abstract and odd sized shapes still react like car wheels?
    Currently they don't stick to the car, but start to slide from the wheelarches?

    Yes, but unfortunately it doesn't work when the wheels are random shapes / different sizes. They travel different distances :(
  • Toby MeadowsToby Meadows
    Hi there! Love this script! I'm having an issue however when using it with motion 2 excite on the rotation. It works as expected but after the animation is complete the position occasionally flashes it off to the side intermittently for the duration of the comp. Thanks for any help you can provide! https://gph.is/g/4zoMrLE <- Gif of example here
  • Robert PenczakRobert Penczak
    Hi - I've read the pdf but I'm either doing something wrong or there's an incompatibility with CC 2019. I have two basic questions:

    1) How do you make a shape (bezier) roll along a path? (I've tried clicking with the various modifier keys and have tried a mask on the shape layer as well as on an independent layer)

    2) In the documentation, it notes this can't be used on animated shapes. But in the sample shots, it shows an chicken with leg swinging back and forth tumbling on conveyor belt and looks like Roll It is registering the proper contact points. Can you explain how that's done?

    Thanks
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Hey Toby. That flashing looks weird. Any chance you could share a AEP so I could take a look? I've never seen this before in my tests. Cheers.

    Toby Meadows said:
    Hi there! Love this script! I'm having an issue however when using it with motion 2 excite on the rotation. It works as expected but after the animation is complete the position occasionally flashes it off to the side intermittently for the duration of the comp. Thanks for any help you can provide! https://gph.is/g/4zoMrLE <- Gif of example here

  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Hey Robert Thanks for your inquiry.
    Regarding #1 - no, you cannot roll along the path, unfortunately. This is something I left uncovered due to too complex mathematical calculations.
    As for the #2, well, what I meant to say in the docs was that once you click Roll it!, scripts reads the shape data at current position, no matter if your shape is animated or not. So, once Roll it! makes a snapshot of your shape at this time, it will roll on this data. Therefore, if your shape animates while rolling, it's contact with the ground will not be precise. In my chicken sample shot I did a trick - I read data once chicken was flat on the surface with it's legs pointing upwards. So in this case, when it rolls, I can somewhat move/rotate the legs while the chicken is flat on the ground and legs aren't touching the surface.However, I have to return legs position/rotation to it's original position once they make a contact with the ground, otherwise legs would go underneath the surface. Sorry, this is something too difficult for me to explain. But I hope this clears at least something. Cheers.

    Robert Penczak said:
    Hi - I've read the pdf but I'm either doing something wrong or there's an incompatibility with CC 2019. I have two basic questions:

    1) How do you make a shape (bezier) roll along a path? (I've tried clicking with the various modifier keys and have tried a mask on the shape layer as well as on an independent layer)

    2) In the documentation, it notes this can't be used on animated shapes. But in the sample shots, it shows an chicken with leg swinging back and forth tumbling on conveyor belt and looks like Roll It is registering the proper contact points. Can you explain how that's done?

    Thanks

  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    It is compatible with CC2019 and probably with the newer AE versions once they come out.

    Jaime Martinez said:
    I'm considering on buying it. But when is it going to be compatible with CC 2019?

  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Yeah, this is a known issue/scenario with odd shapes. However, the only way around this is to use Rotation on the one wheel, but animate the second wheel frame by frame, so it doesn't slide from the wheelarches.

    I wish I could provide a better solution for this, but I don't have anything better for this moment, sorry.

    Pipedrive OÜ said:
    How can I make the two abstract and odd sized shapes still react like car wheels?
    Currently they don't stick to the car, but start to slide from the wheelarches?

  • Robert PenczakRobert Penczak
    Hey Tomas - 

    Thanks for the explanations. I'll do some further testing with those techniques and manual adjustments in mind.


    Tomas Sinkunas said:
    Hey Robert Thanks for your inquiry.
    Regarding #1 - no, you cannot roll along the path, unfortunately. This is something I left uncovered due to too complex mathematical calculations.
    As for the #2, well, what I meant to say in the docs was that once you click Roll it!, scripts reads the shape data at current position, no matter if your shape is animated or not. So, once Roll it! makes a snapshot of your shape at this time, it will roll on this data. Therefore, if your shape animates while rolling, it's contact with the ground will not be precise. In my chicken sample shot I did a trick - I read data once chicken was flat on the surface with it's legs pointing upwards. So in this case, when it rolls, I can somewhat move/rotate the legs while the chicken is flat on the ground and legs aren't touching the surface.However, I have to return legs position/rotation to it's original position once they make a contact with the ground, otherwise legs would go underneath the surface. Sorry, this is something too difficult for me to explain. But I hope this clears at least something. Cheers.

    Robert Penczak said:
    Hi - I've read the pdf but I'm either doing something wrong or there's an incompatibility with CC 2019. I have two basic questions:

    1) How do you make a shape (bezier) roll along a path? (I've tried clicking with the various modifier keys and have tried a mask on the shape layer as well as on an independent layer)

    2) In the documentation, it notes this can't be used on animated shapes. But in the sample shots, it shows an chicken with leg swinging back and forth tumbling on conveyor belt and looks like Roll It is registering the proper contact points. Can you explain how that's done?

    Thanks


  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Robert, you can grab Chicken AEP project file from here and see how I did it. Cheers.
    https://lottiefiles.com/7093-roll-it-chicken-roll

    Robert Penczak said:
    Hey Tomas - 

    Thanks for the explanations. I'll do some further testing with those techniques and manual adjustments in mind.


    Tomas Sinkunas said:
    Hey Robert Thanks for your inquiry.
    Regarding #1 - no, you cannot roll along the path, unfortunately. This is something I left uncovered due to too complex mathematical calculations.
    As for the #2, well, what I meant to say in the docs was that once you click Roll it!, scripts reads the shape data at current position, no matter if your shape is animated or not. So, once Roll it! makes a snapshot of your shape at this time, it will roll on this data. Therefore, if your shape animates while rolling, it's contact with the ground will not be precise. In my chicken sample shot I did a trick - I read data once chicken was flat on the surface with it's legs pointing upwards. So in this case, when it rolls, I can somewhat move/rotate the legs while the chicken is flat on the ground and legs aren't touching the surface.However, I have to return legs position/rotation to it's original position once they make a contact with the ground, otherwise legs would go underneath the surface. Sorry, this is something too difficult for me to explain. But I hope this clears at least something. Cheers.

    Robert Penczak said:
    Hi - I've read the pdf but I'm either doing something wrong or there's an incompatibility with CC 2019. I have two basic questions:

    1) How do you make a shape (bezier) roll along a path? (I've tried clicking with the various modifier keys and have tried a mask on the shape layer as well as on an independent layer)

    2) In the documentation, it notes this can't be used on animated shapes. But in the sample shots, it shows an chicken with leg swinging back and forth tumbling on conveyor belt and looks like Roll It is registering the proper contact points. Can you explain how that's done?

    Thanks



  • Frank LamontFrank Lamont
    Hi I'm trying to use it AE 2019, however it just doesn't seem to apply the expression. Does it not work in 2019? 
    Here's what I'm doing:
    1. Create a shape
    2. Launch Roll it
    3. Click on Roll it!,
    4. Click on Got it Boss!

    no expressing shows up on the position transform

  • Chris MarriottChris Marriott
    Frank Lamont said:
    Hi I'm trying to use it AE 2019, however it just doesn't seem to apply the expression. Does it not work in 2019? 
    Here's what I'm doing:
    1. Create a shape
    2. Launch Roll it
    3. Click on Roll it!,
    4. Click on Got it Boss!

    no expressing shows up on the position transform

    This is probably the issue.
    Roll it     works with Bezier shapes, so all the parametric shapes such as rectangle, ellipse, and star, must be converted to a Bezier shape. To do so twirl open the shape layer and right-click the shape path for example, Rectangle 1, and select Convert To Bezier Path.
  • Michiel van HarenMichiel van Haren
    Can you roll a normal (raster) layer as well? Or like, build a shape in the same shape as the raster layer (say, an egg) and parent the layer to the rolling shape?
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    You cannot roll raster layer. However, what you can do, is draw a Mask on that raster layer, and set it's mode to None (so it does not mask the layer), and then use _that Mask_ as a shape for Roll it!.

    Michiel van Haren said:
    Can you roll a normal (raster) layer as well? Or like, build a shape in the same shape as the raster layer (say, an egg) and parent the layer to the rolling shape?

  • Ashley smithAshley smith
    Can I use Roll it to follow a specific path. Say rolling an oval up and down hills?
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Sorry, but no.
    That would make AE to explode with complex calculation in expression on each frame.

    Ashley smith said:
    Can I use Roll it to follow a specific path. Say rolling an oval up and down hills?

  • Adam TowAdam Tow
    Hi there, I love the product... happy customer. One question - does anything come to mind as a way to lock a texture that's linked to the object? Even if just the X. I've looked into / tried sourceRectAtTime but that's getting out of my realm. I would think I could use sourceRectAtTime to get the top left bounding box of the object (or center, in the case of my oblong shape)... and lock a layer to those coordinates. Thanks for your time!
  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    One way would be to make texture follow the position of the rolling layer. Apply this expression on textture layers Position property:

    var rollingLayer = thisComp.layer("ROLLING LAYER");
    var x = rollingLayer.transform.position[0];
    var y = value[1];
    [x, y];

    Cheers.

    Adam Tow said:
    Hi there, I love the product... happy customer. One question - does anything come to mind as a way to lock a texture that's linked to the object? Even if just the X. I've looked into / tried sourceRectAtTime but that's getting out of my realm. I would think I could use sourceRectAtTime to get the top left bounding box of the object (or center, in the case of my oblong shape)... and lock a layer to those coordinates. Thanks for your time!

  • ole sturmole sturm
    Is there a way to bake the resulting animation?
  • Chris GannonChris Gannon
    Hi,

    Roll It! is causing random position glitches. I see another user has seen this too. Did you find a solution?
  • art arnonart arnon
    more tutorials please.
  • Raju SachaniaRaju Sachania
    If the tutor wants to rush on tutorials then he must have paste the expression instead of talking too fast and finish the tutorials like in the race.
  • TJ KearneyTJ Kearney
    Will this be updated for the New Javascript Expressions?
  • Chris GannonChris Gannon
    This has stopped working with the Windows 22.6.0 update. 

    It now shows the following error: 

    ---------------------------
    Script Alert
    ---------------------------
    Error: After Effects error: Can not “set expression” with this property, because the property or a parent property is hidden.
    Script File: Roll it!.jsx
    Function: doIt
    Error on Line: 1024
    ---------------------------


  • Tomas SinkunasTomas Sinkunas
    Hey Chris. I am not aware of this issue. Do you mind opening a support ticket, so I can track it? Thanks.

    Chris Gannon said:
    This has stopped working with the Windows 22.6.0 update. 

    It now shows the following error: 

    ---------------------------
    Script Alert
    ---------------------------
    Error: After Effects error: Can not “set expression” with this property, because the property or a parent property is hidden.
    Script File: Roll it!.jsx
    Function: doIt
    Error on Line: 1024
    ---------------------------



  • Jozef BehrJozef Behr
    It amazing technique , new for me
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